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ho50gt
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posted May 07, 2001 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ho50gt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have learned that when it comes to new vehicles (first productions) patience is not only a virtue, but it will save you from lots of headaches. I will wait for 2nd or 3rd year production. By then, they have worked out most of the kinks of new cars.
Nick

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P!R@N@
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posted May 08, 2001 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P!R@N@   Click Here to Email P!R@N@     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They dont work out kinks in cars after production starts. Maybe in very hi production cars theyll add new body styles and engines alot but not in a car like this.

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ho50gt
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posted May 08, 2001 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ho50gt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by P!R@N@:
They dont work out kinks in cars after production starts. Maybe in very hi production cars theyll add new body styles and engines alot but not in a car like this.

Maybe you are not understanding what I am saying. Everytime they change drastically a car.. like come out with a new body style or similar things... the end result has few kinks... whether it is bad wiring, electronics.... tailights that need better design because they go out to quick.... little things, but anoying... Or it could be bigger things like bad transmissions, bad crash test results, etc. Point is.. after the first year and all the complaints from people, they tend to fix most of these problems in second and third year runs. Therefore.... that is why I never buy the first year of anything when there is a mayor change in the vehicle. Example. The first Volvo convertible that came out like 3 years ago (C70 i think) had lots of little problems to include the top meachanism breaking down. Well, they have by now (3rd year) fix all those problems and have a great car running.

Now... if you can understand what I am saying.. you have either never owned a first year of a car that had such problems or simply can understand a simple reality of car making.

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BAdAzZV8
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posted May 08, 2001 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BAdAzZV8   Click Here to Email BAdAzZV8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When they revamped the RX-7, the '93 had a lot more problems. My dad used to work at a Mazda dealership, and told me about it. The first year does usually have some kinks to work out, but they are usually not that bad.

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posted May 10, 2001 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P!R@N@   Click Here to Email P!R@N@     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for the info, but you didnt need to write a essay on it.

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posted May 15, 2001 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s2k   Click Here to Email s2k     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FUGLY PIECE OF CRAP

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posted May 16, 2001 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P!R@N@   Click Here to Email P!R@N@     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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FUGLY PIECE OF CRAP


didnt your mom teach you not to insult yourself that much.

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posted May 16, 2001 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BAdAzZV8   Click Here to Email BAdAzZV8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is pretty hideous, and I only hope it does good, so they can bring over the Skyline.

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posted June 16, 2001 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jarema     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
by the way a skyline weights 3500 lb and has like 320 hp. Not that much better than the new z. Only thing is that its has awd and yo can tune it, but it still costs $80 g's

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posted June 20, 2001 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BAdAzZV8   Click Here to Email BAdAzZV8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a very fast car, and it's performance is just hindered from the factory. It is so restricted from the factory, and with just a few dollars can be around 500hp.

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posted June 20, 2001 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P!R@N@   Click Here to Email P!R@N@     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why do they restrict it? the japanes agreement on horsepower?

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posted June 20, 2001 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frictionx   Click Here to Email frictionx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by P!R@N@:
why do they restrict it? the japanes agreement on horsepower?


Exactly P!R@N@, but I think that the 280hp "agreement on horsepower",as Kingfisher pointed out, is going to be broken by the next NSX and the upcoming Supra.

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posted June 22, 2001 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anthony   Click Here to Email Anthony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's with these gentlemen's agreements, like the BMW-Benz 155 mph and the Japanese 280 hp agreements. I think auto companies should let their engines run to their full potential.

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posted June 23, 2001 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for P!R@N@   Click Here to Email P!R@N@     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both of these agreements should exclude their top end sports cars and allow the companies put up some real competition.

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posted June 23, 2001 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frictionx   Click Here to Email frictionx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What's with these gentlemen's agreements, like the BMW-Benz 155 mph and the Japanese 280 hp agreements. I think auto companies should let their engines run to their full potential.


We live in a world that is ruled by political correctness , so having 200MPH sedans and 600hp skylines cant fit inside the mental boundaries of many people.....

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