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Topic: The Ferrari F60 is Coming! - Part II
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nickpinin
Junior Member Posts: 14
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted October 04, 2001 05:23 PM
   
I guess you could say there is an FX in the works.... The proposals for the 55o replacement just wen through at Pininfarina. But dont get excited yet, this is the first step of about a 4 year process. Dont expect any pics or anything for a while.
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kingfisher
Member Posts: 2532
From: Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted October 08, 2001 04:00 AM
The 456 replacement should be well under way, right?------------------
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FerrariKid14
Moderator Posts: 2725
From: Granville, OH
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted October 08, 2001 12:56 PM
I would think so, kingfisher. The 456 is now beginning to look dated to me (well, when I first saw it, I thought it looked dated. Then I loved it. Now I think it's dated again).------------------
 
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nickpinin
Junior Member Posts: 14
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted October 08, 2001 08:14 PM
The 456 replacement has already been designed. It is finished. Although it has not reached production stage yet. It is still in the process of becoming a public project. Designed by Ken Okuyama(Rossa, F60).this car is going to be even bigger than the previous to actually fit people in the backseat this time.
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kingfisher
Member Posts: 2532
From: Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted October 09, 2001 02:19 AM
Pininfarina seems to have its plate full these days, not just with Ferrari but Ford's projects, too: the StreetKa, Start, "GT41" ...------------------
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DJ Dirk
Member Posts: 128
From: belgium
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted October 09, 2001 06:01 AM
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Yes, the FX from the 512TR days was indeed commissioned by the Sultan; only one was built.FORZA magazine did a feature article on it about 2 months ago. The Sultan sold to an American dealer, and the car now resides in a museum in Southern California.
There are at least 2 build
remember those spy pics from inside the sultan's garage it shows a Red FX not the blue one from in FORZA Magazine
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stevenvegas
Junior Member Posts: 2
From: UK
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted October 09, 2001 08:12 AM
I don't think the F60 prototype pics are to be to trusted. It is a running test mule. I believe the F60 will differ dramatically from the F40 & F50 themes. The running prototype however does give us an idea of proportions, given the wheelbase! Either way it should be an occassion!
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nickpinin
Junior Member Posts: 14
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted October 09, 2001 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by stevenvegas:
I don't think the F60 prototype pics are to be to trusted. It is a running test mule. I believe the F60 will differ dramatically from the F40 & F50 themes. The running prototype however does give us an idea of proportions, given the wheelbase! Either way it should be an occassion!
dont be so sure of that steve-o. The pics are pretty close. Trust me what you see there is basically what you are going to get when it rolls into the showroom in Paris in a few months. Althought htere are some differences though. So rest your mind with that. One major difference is going to be performance. Alhtough they did lose some of my votes in that arena by not having the engine a stressed member any more, unlike the f50. But 0-60 as weellas top speed will be for lack of a better way to put it...fucking rediculous. So hold your breath, this one is going ot kick ass.------------------
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stevenvegas
Junior Member Posts: 2
From: UK
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted October 10, 2001 07:48 AM
Does the term test mule mean anything to you friging idiots? The F60 will visually differ from the F40/50 themes. I don't think we will see a rear wing. Much of the areodynamic down force will come new floorpan design as seen on the F50 and new F360 Modena. They will want to create a new more rounded pinifarina look, as the modena has started. Remeber test mules of the McLaren F1 which looked nothing like the final product. ------------------
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nickpinin
Junior Member Posts: 14
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted October 10, 2001 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by stevenvegas:
Does the term test mule mean anything to you friging idiots? The F60 will visually differ from the F40/50 themes. I don't think we will see a rear wing. Much of the areodynamic down force will come new floorpan design as seen on the F50 and new F360 Modena. They will want to create a new more rounded pinifarina look, as the modena has started. Remeber test mules of the McLaren F1 which looked nothing like the final product.
Hey man dont blow your top or anyhting over this but you are wrong. True this is a mule but that mule is about 90% the real deal. THe car you see hin those photos is pretty close to the actual thing (sans the rear wing). Just wait and see at Paris. I also disagree with your statement about Pininfarina wanting a more rounded look. I dont think "round" has anything to do with their styling cues so much as functionality does. These cars do not have arbitrary scoops and form language. These cars are funtional to a "T". As is the F60.If the fronrt end was lifting at high speed the elememt in the front got larger. If more air was needed to the engine the intake got bigger. Not for the purpose of styling but so the damn engine doesnt become a highway side campfire. Much of the shape of these cars is dictated in the wind tunnel as well. Also at Pininfarina they do a lot other that Ferrari, in fact they do a whole lot more.So the statemnt of having a "round" look for their cars is even furhter dispelled due to the fact they caiter to anyone who contracts. Not every car company wants af Ferrari themed or similar form language when they come to them. Can oyu imagine a Kia with Rossa cues? I think not. They have a reputation to uphold based on creativity and unique thought. If all there cars looked the same they would not be what they are today. The F60 will differ greatly from the f50 and the modena, I promise oyu that. They are the work of 2 different designers. Forward though was needed here not rehatching the Modena which was styled 10 years ago.
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kingfisher
Member Posts: 2532
From: Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted October 12, 2001 04:01 PM
This is something I've been thinking more and more since seeing the F60 mules - what you see will be very close to what you get. At first they were running powertrains and suspensions around Fiorano with stretched "348" cladding - very obviously disguised. However, the latest pictures show very minimalist body pieces, which made me wonder how it could be disguised in any significant way.Nick, what's your estimate of the F60's top speed? I've read several interviews with di Montezemolo wherein he stated Ferrari wasn't out for ballistic missile speeds (a la Bugatti) but intended to focus more on pure driving enjoyment. In other words, probably less than 220 mph, tops. ------------------
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nickpinin
Junior Member Posts: 14
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted October 12, 2001 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by kingfisher:
This is something I've been thinking more and more since seeing the F60 mules - what you see will be very close to what you get. At first they were running powertrains and suspensions around Fiorano with stretched "348" cladding - very obviously disguised. However, the latest pictures show very minimalist body pieces, which made me wonder how it could be disguised in any significant way.Nick, what's your estimate of the F60's top speed? I've read several interviews with di Montezemolo wherein he stated Ferrari wasn't out for ballistic missile speeds (a la Bugatti) but intended to focus more on pure driving enjoyment. In other words, probably less than 220 mph, tops.
Knowing montezemolo I owuld guess that he is downplaying the overall performance figures since the ,ahem, overstatement of the f50's superiotity over the f40. I have some info that leads to believe that this car is going to be nothing less than Mclaren fighter. Alhtough I agree that the main focus is going ot be overall stability and balance. The F60 will be a large car so I am intersted in how the new chassis will handle not having the engine stressed like the F50. Botomline realisticaly this car could beat the F1 out for top ranks.
As for how the Mules will pose to the real thing, I will tell you now that that is the car. Thre rear wing is a guise though. THe intakes on the side are real, the nose is more or less htere, not he lights though. A little edgier though, And all the glass is production. Hope that answers your question------------------
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kingfisher
Member Posts: 2532
From: Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted October 15, 2001 01:09 AM
Is the gull-wing doors rumour true? If so, that would indicate a McLaren fighter.But 242 mph is a tough number to match. Ask Ferry Piech. ------------------
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nickpinin
Junior Member Posts: 14
From: ca
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted October 15, 2001 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by kingfisher:
Is the gull-wing doors rumour true? If so, that would indicate a McLaren fighter.But 242 mph is a tough number to match. Ask Ferry Piech.
The gullwings are for real. they couldnt get the hinge to open far enough with the front wheel air dumps being so large. So they sent the doors skybound. I am almost for sure that hey are pivoted like the Mclaren.
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CultMaster
Moderator Posts: 524
From: Manchester UK
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted October 15, 2001 11:45 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOOO melikes gullwing doors. Sorry, that was so pointless. Just ignore me.------------------
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